Comments on: The Times They Are A-Changin’ http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/ The Colorado Springs Gazette's blog for Air Force Academy sports Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:30:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: WELCOME TO FACEBOOK « The Birddog http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2595 WELCOME TO FACEBOOK « The Birddog Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:33:33 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2595 [...] is THAT big of a deal. What I really find interesting is how this contrasts with the Air Force Lack Of Information Proclamation issued last month. To me, the Facebook page is sort of emblematic of the apparent difference in [...] [...] is THAT big of a deal. What I really find interesting is how this contrasts with the Air Force Lack Of Information Proclamation issued last month. To me, the Facebook page is sort of emblematic of the apparent difference in [...]

]]> By: PRIORITIES « The Birddog http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2419 PRIORITIES « The Birddog Sun, 12 Jul 2009 04:52:31 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2419 [...] to coaches and players a bit more difficult. Not surprisingly, Falcons beat writer Jake Schaller thinks this is unfortunate. And it is; those of us who try to keep a finger on the pulse of Air Force football appreciate the [...] [...] to coaches and players a bit more difficult. Not surprisingly, Falcons beat writer Jake Schaller thinks this is unfortunate. And it is; those of us who try to keep a finger on the pulse of Air Force football appreciate the [...]

]]> By: bluefan http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2417 bluefan Sat, 11 Jul 2009 21:31:54 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2417 should read nit final four, not ncaa should read nit final four, not ncaa

]]> By: bluefan http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2415 bluefan Sat, 11 Jul 2009 08:55:05 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2415 More facts: I think with my head not my heart I Do not care for Hans, but he does get an overly bad rap on this blog. the cadets are outstanding Never did i say the kids were crappy, the teams as far as sports teams go are crappy, How do i know? Every women's sport went o for the season in mwc play.... the men's soccer team scored one goal all season at home. Lacrosse had a suprising season, and finished .500 beating two teams in a blizzard.. Hans record of failure ? One ncaa at large basketball birth. one ncaa final four. He hired bzdelik. He approved changing hockey conferences..Three consecutive ncaa apperance later. In no way do i drink the kool-aid,,,,but put Lax aside and you will find the most sucessful service academy lies within colorado springs.....get off their backs!!!! More facts:

I think with my head not my heart

I Do not care for Hans, but he does get an overly bad rap on this blog.

the cadets are outstanding

Never did i say the kids were crappy, the teams as far as sports teams go are crappy, How do i know?

Every women’s sport went o for the season in mwc play…. the men’s soccer team scored one goal all season at home. Lacrosse had a suprising season, and finished .500 beating two teams in a blizzard..

Hans record of failure ? One ncaa at large basketball birth. one ncaa final four. He hired bzdelik. He approved changing hockey conferences..Three consecutive ncaa apperance later. In no way do i drink the kool-aid,,,,but put Lax aside and you will find the most sucessful service academy lies within colorado springs…..get off their backs!!!!

]]> By: Mountain Man http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2413 Mountain Man Sat, 11 Jul 2009 05:16:48 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2413 Obviously I am many posts behind, so here we go. AFA Fantastic, I'm not a plant. My brother attended the Air Force Academy and is currently flying to defend our country ... that means your country and mine! I lived in Springs for eight years and recently left and duriing my time and my connection with my brother , I grew to love Air Force athletics. You are so misguided, I am not even going to comment on each points. For an outsider, I think I have a pretty good understanding of college athletics and have been around numerous programs. Why does everyone keep going back to the baseball issue. Does anyone on this board have any facts (or a life for that matter), I think not. AFA Fantastic's pure hatred for Mueh has reached the level of insanity. Did you flunk his chemistry class at some point? Yes, baseball has issues and always has. Its part of the sport.I also coach little league and the parents of 10-year olds are obviously the same as the parents of college kids. My kid did nothing wrong and is great, so they say. I'm also a parent and sometimes my kids make mistakes and sometimes they are just not very good at something. Unlike AFA Fantastics, who is qualified to run a multi-million dollar athletic department with knowledge gained by sitting behind a computer blogging. AFA Fantastic, don't let hte facts get in the way of your rant, but many of Mainieri's teams that won 20 games included several Division Ii wins. One year, they beat Division III Colorado College six times, including once at Sky Sox stadium when the CC coach got tossed in their final game. Were you there? No, I was, freezing my cajones off. bluefan, makes some great points, but he is jaded. Not everyone is crappy. Let's put some of the baseball issues aside for a second and take a look at the other 20 something sports. Lacrosse had a great season under a first-year coach (hired by mueh), a golfer is in a qualifier for the Masters and a baseball player, yes a baseball player, was a first-team All-American. And how about hockey, you talk about a program winning with class under one of the best coaches ever in any sport at the Academy. And, oh by the way Hans hater, Hans was the chair on the committee that hired Serratore. Hmmm. Sometimes you hit a home run and sometimes you pop up. This dead horse is dead! Feel free to chime back in, but I'm done until the next issue comes up. Mountain Man out. Obviously I am many posts behind, so here we go. AFA Fantastic, I’m not a plant. My brother attended the Air Force Academy and is currently flying to defend our country … that means your country and mine! I lived in Springs for eight years and recently left and duriing my time and my connection with my brother , I grew to love Air Force athletics. You are so misguided, I am not even going to comment on each points. For an outsider, I think I have a pretty good understanding of college athletics and have been around numerous programs.

Why does everyone keep going back to the baseball issue. Does anyone on this board have any facts (or a life for that matter), I think not. AFA Fantastic’s pure hatred for Mueh has reached the level of insanity. Did you flunk his chemistry class at some point? Yes, baseball has issues and always has. Its part of the sport.I also coach little league and the parents of 10-year olds are obviously the same as the parents of college kids. My kid did nothing wrong and is great, so they say. I’m also a parent and sometimes my kids make mistakes and sometimes they are just not very good at something. Unlike AFA Fantastics, who is qualified to run a multi-million dollar athletic department with knowledge gained by sitting behind a computer blogging.

AFA Fantastic, don’t let hte facts get in the way of your rant, but many of Mainieri’s teams that won 20 games included several Division Ii wins. One year, they beat Division III Colorado College six times, including once at Sky Sox stadium when the CC coach got tossed in their final game. Were you there? No, I was, freezing my cajones off.

bluefan, makes some great points, but he is jaded. Not everyone is crappy. Let’s put some of the baseball issues aside for a second and take a look at the other 20 something sports. Lacrosse had a great season under a first-year coach (hired by mueh), a golfer is in a qualifier for the Masters and a baseball player, yes a baseball player, was a first-team All-American. And how about hockey, you talk about a program winning with class under one of the best coaches ever in any sport at the Academy. And, oh by the way Hans hater, Hans was the chair on the committee that hired Serratore. Hmmm. Sometimes you hit a home run and sometimes you pop up.

This dead horse is dead! Feel free to chime back in, but I’m done until the next issue comes up. Mountain Man out.

]]> By: AFA FANTASTIC http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2411 AFA FANTASTIC Sat, 11 Jul 2009 04:16:51 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2411 Bluefan...How dare you minimize the efforts and hard work of all the cadets both male and female that not only take course schedules in a semester that most of their competition takes in a year and say they are all crappy. You obviously are part of the problem on the hill and my guess is you are one of the Hans grape juice drinkers or one of the baseball coaches. It appears to me that your not or ever have been part of the military system as anyone that knows better would have never commented on all teams being crappy as you put it. These kids give their all and its not about wins and losses. It is about character and that is what some of the comments here have been about. Something you are extremely lacking in. Does it matter who hired Hans...look at his record of failure since he's been there. We are not talking about wins and losses but failure period. As for the generals on the hill again you show your ignorance as those officers could not be further from the front lines you refer to if they tried. Their jobs are to maintain the academy and not the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan! The only thing your even remotely correct on is that the blog has gotten off track from the focus on media and lack there of. The great thing is that these fine young men and women that are the future of our country that you refer to as crappy athletes make it safe for people like you and I to speak out with repercussion. One more thing Dont ever compare Hutcheon to Paul Maneriri...Paul has a future...Hutcheon doesn't. You need to apologize to the athletes of the USAFA for the fine job they do and take 20+ HOURS a semester while they do their best. If you look at the records since your stating facts Maneriri put many 20+ game winning seasons as well. I don't think the police force was on the schedule either. You should be ashamed of your comments and you call yourself a bluefan! I think not! Bluefan…How dare you minimize the efforts and hard work of all the cadets both male and female that not only take course schedules in a semester that most of their competition takes in a year and say they are all crappy. You obviously are part of the problem on the hill and my guess is you are one of the Hans grape juice drinkers or one of the baseball coaches. It appears to me that your not or ever have been part of the military system as anyone that knows better would have never commented on all teams being crappy as you put it. These kids give their all and its not about wins and losses. It is about character and that is what some of the comments here have been about. Something you are extremely lacking in. Does it matter who hired Hans…look at his record of failure since he’s been there. We are not talking about wins and losses but failure period. As for the generals on the hill again you show your ignorance as those officers could not be further from the front lines you refer to if they tried. Their jobs are to maintain the academy and not the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan! The only thing your even remotely correct on is that the blog has gotten off track from the focus on media and lack there of. The great thing is that these fine young men and women that are the future of our country that you refer to as crappy athletes make it safe for people like you and I to speak out with repercussion. One more thing Dont ever compare Hutcheon to Paul Maneriri…Paul has a future…Hutcheon doesn’t. You need to apologize to the athletes of the USAFA for the fine job they do and take 20+ HOURS a semester while they do their best. If you look at the records since your stating facts Maneriri put many 20+ game winning seasons as well. I don’t think the police force was on the schedule either. You should be ashamed of your comments and you call yourself a bluefan! I think not!

]]> By: bbscott http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2409 bbscott Sat, 11 Jul 2009 01:57:33 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2409 Actually, I have no connection to the AFA except that a friend attended here and actually had a good baseball career. I guess it's easier to justify the fact that they arent good instead of holding people accoutable for what they do or dont do. Coach Mineriri may have struggled, but certainly not to the extent of the last 6 years. And contrary to your statement that it's ok to be crappy, it isn't, no matter how you look at it. You're a typical guy that justifies everything off, makes excuses and holds no one accoutable for anything. Actually, I have no connection to the AFA except that a friend attended here and actually had a good baseball career. I guess it’s easier to justify the fact that they arent good instead of holding people accoutable for what they do or dont do. Coach Mineriri may have struggled, but certainly not to the extent of the last 6 years. And contrary to your statement that it’s ok to be crappy, it isn’t, no matter how you look at it. You’re a typical guy that justifies everything off, makes excuses and holds no one accoutable for anything.

]]> By: bluefan http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2407 bluefan Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:47:52 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2407 Thought this was an article about football practice being closed to the media. Seems some of you have an ax to grind about baseball. either you guys or your kids where not as good as you thought. the kids who get cut are usually bad, look at their stats some of these kids would have a hard time getting picked up for a team at four diamonds. Those who quit do so on their own accord. Here a couple more facts about af baseball most on these posts are unaware of: 1. Randy Spetman, not Hans hired Mike Hutcheon, Hans came aboard in 2004, after Hutcheon's first season. 2. Baseball at the academy has always been bad, Hutcheon plays very few d-2 games, no longer do they play the police academy on a regular basis. 3. Even Paul Maneriri's struggled, now he has a NCAA ring. 4. Generals have their head buried in the sand on the sitution because thier heads are where they should be in iraq and afghanistan, not listening to the petty grumbliings of a select few about a subject so trivial. 5. Other than football, hockey, and Mbb being mediocre. ALL TEAM SPORTS at the academy are crappy. It is o.k!! The mission at the academy is to produce leaders of character, All 27 sports excell at this. Just look at their media guides profiles of alumni. 6. Even if a kid gets cut or quits, HE makes the decision to stay in the academy, and become a good officer and leader, not the coach. Who wants to follow a quiter anyway? Thought this was an article about football practice being closed to the media. Seems some of you have an ax to grind about baseball. either you guys or your kids where not as good as you thought. the kids who get cut are usually bad, look at their stats some of these kids would have a hard time getting picked up for a team at four diamonds. Those who quit do so on their own accord. Here a couple more facts about af baseball most on these posts are unaware of:

1. Randy Spetman, not Hans hired Mike Hutcheon, Hans came aboard in 2004, after Hutcheon’s first season.

2. Baseball at the academy has always been bad, Hutcheon plays very few d-2 games, no longer do they play the police academy on a regular basis.

3. Even Paul Maneriri’s struggled, now he has a NCAA ring.

4. Generals have their head buried in the sand on the sitution because thier heads are where they should be in iraq and afghanistan, not listening to the petty grumbliings of a select few about a subject so trivial.

5. Other than football, hockey, and Mbb being mediocre. ALL TEAM SPORTS at the academy are crappy. It is o.k!! The mission at the academy is to produce leaders of character, All 27 sports excell at this. Just look at their media guides profiles of alumni.

6. Even if a kid gets cut or quits, HE makes the decision to stay in the academy, and become a good officer and leader, not the coach. Who wants to follow a quiter anyway?

]]> By: AFA FANTASTIC http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2405 AFA FANTASTIC Fri, 10 Jul 2009 16:18:14 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2405 BBscott..I totally agree with you and if I was a parent of one of those kids the AD on down would be looking for work like the rest of the country. The press can't do anything without a cadet coming forward. From what I know of cadet life if they did come forward then they might as well just leave the school then they would be liable for a very expensive education. If they didn't leave the AFA they would find a way to make that cadet that came forward miserable and ruin his career. The administration on the hill is not much better than the circus in Washington right now. Its all politics and unfortunately it sucks the life out of too many fine cadets that leave early and might have been outstanding officers and contributed greatly as officers in their future careers. We sport fans talk about sports but its not all sports. The world was promised change by our new commander in chief and the AFA better figure that out as well or they will be on the chopping block of this country in a hurry. I had heard this Gen. Gould was a good egg and I am still hoping he will investigate all the comments flying about these and many other blogs. There has to be some truth in it as why would so many baseball players be leaving. I don't think these players are intimidated by 18 new recruits of which will probably be 15 after basic and then 12 by fall ball. You are correct this is the same story as in recent years and one has to wonder how people keep their jobs. But after all it is the government! What do you expect! BBscott..I totally agree with you and if I was a parent of one of those kids the AD on down would be looking for work like the rest of the country. The press can’t do anything without a cadet coming forward. From what I know of cadet life if they did come forward then they might as well just leave the school then they would be liable for a very expensive education. If they didn’t leave the AFA they would find a way to make that cadet that came forward miserable and ruin his career. The administration on the hill is not much better than the circus in Washington right now. Its all politics and unfortunately it sucks the life out of too many fine cadets that leave early and might have been outstanding officers and contributed greatly as officers in their future careers. We sport fans talk about sports but its not all sports. The world was promised change by our new commander in chief and the AFA better figure that out as well or they will be on the chopping block of this country in a hurry. I had heard this Gen. Gould was a good egg and I am still hoping he will investigate all the comments flying about these and many other blogs. There has to be some truth in it as why would so many baseball players be leaving. I don’t think these players are intimidated by 18 new recruits of which will probably be 15 after basic and then 12 by fall ball. You are correct this is the same story as in recent years and one has to wonder how people keep their jobs. But after all it is the government! What do you expect!

]]> By: bbscott http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/2009/07/07/the-times-they-are-a-changin/2155/comment-page-1/#comment-2403 bbscott Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:39:31 +0000 http://gazetteafasports.freedomblogging.com/?p=2155#comment-2403 I guess my point is, if things are that bad why isnt the press and/or the parents stepping in. This seems, from the blogs, to be right up there with previous issues that the AFA has had to deal with. The longer that I live the more and more amazed I am that knit-wit peole who are toatlly inadequate have jobs iin important places and they continue to get by. I guess there are a lot of people out there that are satisfied with mediocrity and no holds people to high expectations and high standards anymore. How in the world after 6 years could you justify extending a contract of a guy that has won and average of 11 games a year???? What are you telling the players that are there, the new recruits and more impoatntly the people who support the AFA. Would people except that type of losing if and when these players are sent out to defend our country? I guess my point is, if things are that bad why isnt the press and/or the parents stepping in. This seems, from the blogs, to be right up there with previous issues that the AFA has had to deal with. The longer that I live the more and more amazed I am that knit-wit peole who are toatlly inadequate have jobs iin important places and they continue to get by. I guess there are a lot of people out there that are satisfied with mediocrity and no holds people to high expectations and high standards anymore. How in the world after 6 years could you justify extending a contract of a guy that has won and average of 11 games a year???? What are you telling the players that are there, the new recruits and more impoatntly the people who support the AFA. Would people except that type of losing if and when these players are sent out to defend our country?

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